and finally president obama last year in the grand bargain talks with house speaker boehner talked about more ambitious proposals than medicare than he's advocated so far like raising the eligibility age from 65 to 67. hasn't said a word about that in the election campaign so far. you can expect the two to clash on that issue, as well. >> john, i know you've looked at some poll numbers from the journal and nbc news. maybe a slight tightening on a national level. but certainly in some important states like ohio, the president continues to lead. i know you've said the romney strategists believe they need ohio. if it's mathematically possible to win without it, why do they still believe they need it? >> well, because if you don't win ohio, you're probably not going to win, say, wisconsin, which is another mid western state, paul ryan's on the ticket, that moves in similar ways to the state of ohio. it's hard to piece together especially given the overwhelming dominance by the president of the hispanic vote, states like colorado where we are right now, or nevada. so ohio may be a better shot